20488 - Dialog with links
Day 1
Andy Irvine (07/10/2017 12:00 PM): is there a lab we could start looking at during lunch?
AnyWare Support Caren Grove (07/10/2017 12:02 PM): Hello Remote attendees, we will be shutting down this event during the lunch break to resolve the technical issues you have been experiencing. Please close all your browsers. You can re-access your event by accessing it again via your My Learning Tree account.
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 12:06 PM): We might fade in and out
AnyWare Support Caren Grove (07/10/2017 12:13 PM): I will be ending the meeting now.
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 12:13 PM): ok
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 12:27 PM): Hello all
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 12:27 PM): \Do let us know if we can help you get settled in prep for the afternoon session
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 12:42 PM): I'm going to stay in the chatroom if anyone needs help with Labs etc
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 12:42 PM): Officially we still need to complete the theory for Module 1 but feel free to attempt Lab 1 & 2
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 12:43 PM): However, If you are "new" to Sharepoint development, it may be better to hold off on the Labs till we complete the theory, at least for Module 1
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 12:55 PM): Hello Ian
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 12:55 PM): How can we help?
Ian Barber (07/10/2017 12:56 PM): Hi Derek - can you check and see if I'm connected correctly to the lab vm please?
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 12:58 PM): sure
Ian Barber (07/10/2017 12:58 PM): thx
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 12:58 PM): Could everone be sure to mute your mics on the way in?
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 12:58 PM): Thx
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:00 PM): is this you?
Ashraf Pandhare (07/10/2017 1:04 PM): no audio?
Andy Irvine (07/10/2017 1:04 PM): i don't have sound either
Robert Robnett (07/10/2017 1:04 PM): I dont think anyone has audio.
Jason Macdonnell (07/10/2017 1:05 PM): i dont hear anything
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:05 PM): Hi everyone
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:05 PM): just coming on cam now\
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/10/2017 1:08 PM): i still dont have any sounds
Andy Irvine (07/10/2017 1:08 PM): the audio isn't as good as it was before
Andy Irvine (07/10/2017 1:08 PM): but it works
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/10/2017 1:09 PM): it works now
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:09 PM): Recap of this morning
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:25 PM): STSadm.exe
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:29 PM): Q - different approaches to large IT project?
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:29 PM): Q - what are some of the components?
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:30 PM): Q - STAGES?
Ahmedur Rab (07/10/2017 1:30 PM): its been 15-20 min i can see the screen
Ahmedur Rab (07/10/2017 1:30 PM): are you sharing anyhting there
Caren Grove (07/10/2017 1:31 PM): Hello Remote attendees, we are bringing back the left share
Caren Grove (07/10/2017 1:31 PM): THis should just be a moment
Ahmedur Rab (07/10/2017 1:31 PM): ok
Jason Macdonnell (07/10/2017 1:31 PM): we have worked agil
Andy Irvine (07/10/2017 1:31 PM): agile iterative dev
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:32 PM): Gathering requirements
Andy Irvine (07/10/2017 1:33 PM): functional/non func
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:33 PM): Q - what are the 2 main types of requirements?
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:34 PM): Function?
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:34 PM): Functional and non-functioanl
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:34 PM): Business oriented vs Technical
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:36 PM): Write the code in-house VS COTS
Andy Irvine (07/10/2017 1:36 PM): comm off the shelf
Ronald Boylan (07/10/2017 1:37 PM): Commercial Off The Shelf
Jason Macdonnell (07/10/2017 1:37 PM): flexibility
Robert Robnett (07/10/2017 1:37 PM): cost !!!
Ronald Boylan (07/10/2017 1:37 PM): customization
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:37 PM): Q - problems with COTS?
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:40 PM): http://www.spsdemo.com/
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:49 PM): https://www.microsoft.com/en-
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:52 PM): sharepoint sample code scott hillier
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:52 PM): BCSdashboardREST
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:53 PM): MOC - courseware has a companion pdf
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:54 PM): 1. demonstrations - scripts
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:54 PM): 2. drill down links and resources
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 1:55 PM): 3. answers to discussions, module review and loab review
Robert Robnett (07/10/2017 2:02 PM): Can you use the community edition of VisualStudio to do SharePoint development?
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 2:06 PM): example - UI providing help
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 2:08 PM): \another use case > converting from old system to new
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 2:08 PM): especially COTS
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 2:09 PM): Q - what are some of the resistance factors for end users when you change their software?
Jason Macdonnell (07/10/2017 2:09 PM): users fear change
Andy Irvine (07/10/2017 2:09 PM): don't make me relearn how to use the site
Ronald Boylan (07/10/2017 2:10 PM): look and feel is unfamiliar
Andy Irvine (07/10/2017 2:13 PM): single page apps
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 2:13 PM): SPA - angular?
Jason Macdonnell (07/10/2017 2:13 PM): angular is front end
Robert Robnett (07/10/2017 2:13 PM): Single page apps
Marek Miazga (07/10/2017 2:13 PM): single page app
Ronald Boylan (07/10/2017 2:13 PM): Single Page Apps - knockout and angular
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 2:16 PM): DOCKER - shift in server/cloud
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 2:22 PM): ASP.NET now ASP core > shift to open source
Robert Robnett (07/10/2017 2:43 PM): You're not sharing anything
sergio (07/10/2017 2:47 PM): no need admins anymore
Andy Irvine (07/10/2017 2:48 PM): you don't control the updates
Ronald Boylan (07/10/2017 2:48 PM): lack of control
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 2:48 PM): Complaince
Ashraf Pandhare (07/10/2017 2:49 PM): monthly cloud database fees
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 2:51 PM): Hybrid
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 2:54 PM): http://metafore2012.blogspot.
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 2:56 PM): http://metafore2012.blogspot.
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 3:06 PM): for geeks > look at FLOW and PowerApps
Andy Irvine (07/10/2017 3:23 PM): moc
Jason Macdonnell (07/10/2017 3:23 PM): blog
Andy Irvine (07/10/2017 3:26 PM): go to zion while you are there
sergio (07/10/2017 3:55 PM): i used for anonymous survey
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 4:02 PM): Nice example
Ahmedur Rab (07/10/2017 4:03 PM): Derek - i am not able see anyhting since afternoon.. nothing is being shared
Ahmedur Rab (07/10/2017 4:03 PM): do you know when this issue going to be resolved
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 4:04 PM): ok
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 4:04 PM): i will try to unshare
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 4:05 PM): Lab time for the rest of day
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 4:06 PM): Did everyone have a problem with sharing?
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 4:07 PM): or was it just Rab?
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 4:07 PM): Generally I can see what you see
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 4:07 PM): ... and the sharing worked
Ahmedur Rab (07/10/2017 4:08 PM): nothing worked for me since afternoon break
Ahmedur Rab (07/10/2017 4:08 PM): i have tried to reload but same issue
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 4:08 PM): .. are you attending from work or home? tried tech support? that is your first line of support
Ahmedur Rab (07/10/2017 4:08 PM): home
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 4:08 PM): just click "Get assistance"
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 4:09 PM): could be a firewall thing too - I've seen it before
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 4:09 PM): I can get involved but only if you try that channel first
Ahmedur Rab (07/10/2017 4:09 PM): ok
Ahmedur Rab (07/10/2017 4:09 PM): are you currently sharing anyhting now?
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 4:09 PM): For eferyone else - I'm "walking around" looking at your screens
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 4:09 PM): ... to see if you need helop with anything
Ahmedur Rab (07/10/2017 4:10 PM): are you sharing anything now? Or the class is over for today
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 4:10 PM): class is over - just lab time
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 4:11 PM): from Module 1 and 2.. easy stuff
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 4:16 PM): @Rab - what is your role at the Hospital?
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 4:16 PM): We did the introductions before you arrived, I think
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 4:45 PM): still seems to be some lab activity..
Derek So'Brien (07/10/2017 5:36 PM): alright - signing off
Day 2
Andy Irvine (07/11/2017 10:10 AM): do you have to have permission to deploy it?
Andy Irvine (07/11/2017 10:16 AM): i watched this video a couple months ago before i signed up for this class
David Galeano (07/11/2017 10:18 AM): is PowerApps a replacement for InfoPath?
Arthur Hayes (07/11/2017 10:19 AM): Can you give me the link to your blog again. I can't find it
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 10:19 AM): yes
Jason Macdonnell 2 (07/11/2017 10:19 AM): i lost my audo half way thourgh that video
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 10:20 AM): http://learningtreetraining.
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 10:20 AM): That also links to my other one called "metafore" - it is the one stop for all my extras
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 10:24 AM): We are on morning break #1
Arthur Hayes (07/11/2017 10:26 AM): Blog link, thanks
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 10:36 AM): hi i got logout again but i couldnt login using the passwords you provide yeaterday
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 10:37 AM): yes
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 10:37 AM): did you change any passwords?
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 10:37 AM): no
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 10:38 AM): student machine = adminpw
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 10:38 AM): password VM = Pa$$w0rd
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 10:38 AM): i used the VM but it didnt work
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 10:38 AM): ok..
Arthur Hayes (07/11/2017 10:40 AM): screens are minimized
Arthur Hayes (07/11/2017 10:40 AM): slides
Andy Irvine (07/11/2017 10:41 AM): do you have a different version of course material? my intorducing apps for sharepoint is module 8 not 7
Robert Robnett (07/11/2017 10:46 AM): Can the downloaded tools be used with the Community Edition of SharePoint?
Robert Robnett (07/11/2017 10:47 AM): Can the downloaded tools be used with the Community Edition of Visual Studio?
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 10:49 AM): good
Andy Irvine (07/11/2017 10:53 AM): what's the next module we are covering in case we want to read course material at lunch?
Andy Irvine (07/11/2017 10:53 AM): are we going out of order?
Ashraf Pandhare 2 (07/11/2017 10:57 AM): Can we host on something like bigdaddy?
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:12 AM): Q - what is the biggest and first security threat? from audits and studies
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 11:13 AM): cross site scripting attack
David Galeano (07/11/2017 11:13 AM): servers gtaken down? stoping bussiness continuity
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 11:17 AM): can you help me to login the WM
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 11:17 AM): thanks
Ashraf Pandhare 2 (07/11/2017 11:18 AM): Can we host web app on something like bigdaddy without sharepoint?
Ashraf Pandhare 2 (07/11/2017 11:21 AM): Derek, pls answer my question.
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:26 AM): Hi
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:27 AM): You can host on other platforms.. they mention this in the video
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:27 AM): another reaon to adopt the App model
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 11:27 AM): Derek - please help to login myVM
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 11:28 AM): yes
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 11:28 AM): WM
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 11:28 AM): WM
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 11:28 AM): VM
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 11:30 AM): tks
Jason Macdonnell 3 (07/11/2017 11:32 AM): nope
Jason Macdonnell 3 (07/11/2017 11:32 AM): maybe was the old jason lol
Jason Macdonnell 3 (07/11/2017 11:32 AM): 3 now
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:35 AM): Heirarchy
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:35 AM): Farm> Web app
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:35 AM): Web app > sitecollection > sites
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:36 AM): Sites > can contain Lists and Libaries
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:37 AM): List = a collection of "like" items
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:37 AM): for example announcements, tasks, survey questions
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:38 AM): Libary = is a special case of a list
Jason Macdonnell 3 (07/11/2017 11:38 AM): yup sorry l
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:38 AM): usually documents but also pictures, forms PPT
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:39 AM): Content Type = gives a file a "business meaning"
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 11:55 AM): when you connect to a list, can you specify what view you are conneting to
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 11:56 AM): it would be nice if you show us how to deal with large list (moe than 5K items)
Ronald Boylan (07/11/2017 11:59 AM): Larger blogs take time to paint I found
Ian Barber (07/11/2017 11:59 AM): Acrobat search case sensitive
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 12:06 PM): Darek - will you be able to show how to save a snapshot again?
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 12:08 PM): Yes
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 12:08 PM): I can show after we come back..
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 12:08 PM): thats good
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 12:09 PM): ..you can do it from the VM menu - glide your moise over the buttons and one is called "snapshot" or "checkpoint"
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 12:09 PM): Let's break for lunch
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 12:31 PM): Hope you are ok
Ronald Boylan (07/11/2017 1:23 PM): where is Father Guido?
Ronald Boylan (07/11/2017 1:25 PM): worked for IBM in '80s
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 1:34 PM): can we query multiple tables like SQL JOIN?
Andy Irvine (07/11/2017 1:36 PM): good question
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:36 PM): Yes
Andy Irvine (07/11/2017 1:37 PM): you can't do it w/ caml or linq?
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:38 PM): you can performn the same operation with code
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:39 PM): 20480 > HTML, Javascript & CSS3
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 1:40 PM): will you be able to show an example how can i do JOIN like opeation?
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:40 PM): 20483 > C#
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:40 PM): 20487 > Azure for developers
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:40 PM): 20486 > MVC
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 1:42 PM): when to use LINQ and when CAML?
Jason Macdonnell 3 (07/11/2017 1:44 PM): i think its preference you should be able to use both
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 1:47 PM): i guess there is some performace factor there @Jason
Andy Irvine (07/11/2017 1:47 PM): isn't caml much older than linq?
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 1:54 PM): Y
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:54 PM): Is the video working?
Robert Robnett (07/11/2017 1:54 PM): mostly...somtimes theres static
Ian Barber (07/11/2017 1:54 PM): hard to distinguish the dialogue from cross talk
Arthur Hayes (07/11/2017 1:54 PM): agreed
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:55 PM): I've muted my mic
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:56 PM): remember I've documented all these points in the summary series from MVA
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:56 PM): This shows how they created the custom list for "movies"
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:57 PM): Notice they used a "List Designer" to quickly create the Movie list
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 2:03 PM): Y
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 2:32 PM): If you are new to developer work..
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 2:33 PM): ..run the solution files instead of the starter
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 2:58 PM): NOTE: to copy and paste to the VM use... "Type Clipboard Text"
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 2:58 PM): notice <CTRL> C and <CTRL> V will not work for Hyper-V
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 3:19 PM): Derek need your help can you please check my computer
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:19 PM): sure
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:20 PM): I'm looking now
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:20 PM): what's the issue?
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:20 PM): did you try running the completed solution?
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:20 PM): .. and comparing your code?
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:21 PM): do a "find in code" for Initialize control"
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:21 PM): let me try
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:24 PM): is this Lab A or B?
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 3:24 PM): a
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:25 PM): @Quynh - was chatting with Rab
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:25 PM): @Rab - which one?
Robert Robnett (07/11/2017 3:52 PM): Google or facebook
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:52 PM): Q - what are some internet identity options?
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 3:52 PM): FB and social media login, Oauth
Ronald Boylan (07/11/2017 3:53 PM): owin based
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:04 PM): Derek - i need to see an example of joining two lists
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:04 PM): ok
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:05 PM): ok
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:07 PM): @Rab - I can find some code examples for you
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:07 PM): great
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:08 PM): @Rab - there are ways you can do this "out of the box" without any custom code
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:09 PM): I will let you know when you can look at the blog article - will only take a few mins
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:09 PM): got some lab questions in hand too
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:16 PM): Derek - i know how to do it out of the box. I guess you are reffering to lookup
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:16 PM): list lookup
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:16 PM): yep
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:17 PM): lots's of references to doing it programatically - I'm hust compiling some of the better references
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:17 PM): i need to compare couple of fields in two lists
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:17 PM): programming is the solution for problem
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:19 PM): @Rab - "compare a couple" means it could be more than one? Are they the same data type?
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:19 PM): yes - string
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:20 PM): yes two columns
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:20 PM): infact i need to "JOIN ??" three list based on certain conditions
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:22 PM): @Rab - should be a godd fit for these skills you are learning here. I could help you with the pseudocode. ..
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:23 PM): .. the bigest issue would be to create a scratchpad for the data as it is read from each list - depending on how many lists and how many cont=ditions this could be very cpu intensive
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:23 PM): another option would be to port to SQL and do the join there - is it very private and secure data?
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:24 PM): FOIP? you are in education, I believe?
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:24 PM): thats a restricted access data
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:24 PM): I built an automated workflow system for purchasing dept and other depts
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:25 PM): those data stored in multiple lists
Ronald Boylan (07/11/2017 4:25 PM): How about merging IEnumerable<T> https://www.google.com/url?sa=
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:25 PM): now i need to build a dashboard for the senior executives so that they can see everyhting in one shot
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:26 PM): You can do joins at the reporting layer too
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:26 PM): Ronald has an idea
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:27 PM): Reporting layer? SSRS?
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:28 PM): Whichever tool you use - there are so many. SSRS is my comfort zone - also PowerBI
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:28 PM): Exec dashboards can be fun - I also do them in Dynamics CRM/xRM
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:28 PM): thank you Ronald.. i'll check that out
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:29 PM): i already built bunch of dashboard - using out of the box SP and some JQery
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:30 PM): this one is bit critical
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:30 PM): thank you for your help.. i'll explore further
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:32 PM): look out for my blog entry - probably tomorrow then
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 5:04 PM): SHutting down for today
Andy Irvine (07/11/2017 10:16 AM): i watched this video a couple months ago before i signed up for this class
David Galeano (07/11/2017 10:18 AM): is PowerApps a replacement for InfoPath?
Arthur Hayes (07/11/2017 10:19 AM): Can you give me the link to your blog again. I can't find it
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 10:19 AM): yes
Jason Macdonnell 2 (07/11/2017 10:19 AM): i lost my audo half way thourgh that video
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 10:20 AM): http://learningtreetraining.
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 10:20 AM): That also links to my other one called "metafore" - it is the one stop for all my extras
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 10:24 AM): We are on morning break #1
Arthur Hayes (07/11/2017 10:26 AM): Blog link, thanks
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 10:36 AM): hi i got logout again but i couldnt login using the passwords you provide yeaterday
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 10:37 AM): yes
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 10:37 AM): did you change any passwords?
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 10:37 AM): no
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 10:38 AM): student machine = adminpw
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 10:38 AM): password VM = Pa$$w0rd
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 10:38 AM): i used the VM but it didnt work
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 10:38 AM): ok..
Arthur Hayes (07/11/2017 10:40 AM): screens are minimized
Arthur Hayes (07/11/2017 10:40 AM): slides
Andy Irvine (07/11/2017 10:41 AM): do you have a different version of course material? my intorducing apps for sharepoint is module 8 not 7
Robert Robnett (07/11/2017 10:46 AM): Can the downloaded tools be used with the Community Edition of SharePoint?
Robert Robnett (07/11/2017 10:47 AM): Can the downloaded tools be used with the Community Edition of Visual Studio?
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 10:49 AM): good
Andy Irvine (07/11/2017 10:53 AM): what's the next module we are covering in case we want to read course material at lunch?
Andy Irvine (07/11/2017 10:53 AM): are we going out of order?
Ashraf Pandhare 2 (07/11/2017 10:57 AM): Can we host on something like bigdaddy?
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:12 AM): Q - what is the biggest and first security threat? from audits and studies
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 11:13 AM): cross site scripting attack
David Galeano (07/11/2017 11:13 AM): servers gtaken down? stoping bussiness continuity
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 11:17 AM): can you help me to login the WM
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 11:17 AM): thanks
Ashraf Pandhare 2 (07/11/2017 11:18 AM): Can we host web app on something like bigdaddy without sharepoint?
Ashraf Pandhare 2 (07/11/2017 11:21 AM): Derek, pls answer my question.
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:26 AM): Hi
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:27 AM): You can host on other platforms.. they mention this in the video
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:27 AM): another reaon to adopt the App model
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 11:27 AM): Derek - please help to login myVM
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 11:28 AM): yes
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 11:28 AM): WM
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 11:28 AM): WM
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 11:28 AM): VM
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 11:30 AM): tks
Jason Macdonnell 3 (07/11/2017 11:32 AM): nope
Jason Macdonnell 3 (07/11/2017 11:32 AM): maybe was the old jason lol
Jason Macdonnell 3 (07/11/2017 11:32 AM): 3 now
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:35 AM): Heirarchy
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:35 AM): Farm> Web app
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:35 AM): Web app > sitecollection > sites
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:36 AM): Sites > can contain Lists and Libaries
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:37 AM): List = a collection of "like" items
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:37 AM): for example announcements, tasks, survey questions
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:38 AM): Libary = is a special case of a list
Jason Macdonnell 3 (07/11/2017 11:38 AM): yup sorry l
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:38 AM): usually documents but also pictures, forms PPT
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 11:39 AM): Content Type = gives a file a "business meaning"
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 11:55 AM): when you connect to a list, can you specify what view you are conneting to
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 11:56 AM): it would be nice if you show us how to deal with large list (moe than 5K items)
Ronald Boylan (07/11/2017 11:59 AM): Larger blogs take time to paint I found
Ian Barber (07/11/2017 11:59 AM): Acrobat search case sensitive
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 12:06 PM): Darek - will you be able to show how to save a snapshot again?
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 12:08 PM): Yes
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 12:08 PM): I can show after we come back..
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 12:08 PM): thats good
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 12:09 PM): ..you can do it from the VM menu - glide your moise over the buttons and one is called "snapshot" or "checkpoint"
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 12:09 PM): Let's break for lunch
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 12:31 PM): Hope you are ok
Ronald Boylan (07/11/2017 1:23 PM): where is Father Guido?
Ronald Boylan (07/11/2017 1:25 PM): worked for IBM in '80s
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 1:34 PM): can we query multiple tables like SQL JOIN?
Andy Irvine (07/11/2017 1:36 PM): good question
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:36 PM): Yes
Andy Irvine (07/11/2017 1:37 PM): you can't do it w/ caml or linq?
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:38 PM): you can performn the same operation with code
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:39 PM): 20480 > HTML, Javascript & CSS3
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 1:40 PM): will you be able to show an example how can i do JOIN like opeation?
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:40 PM): 20483 > C#
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:40 PM): 20487 > Azure for developers
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:40 PM): 20486 > MVC
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 1:42 PM): when to use LINQ and when CAML?
Jason Macdonnell 3 (07/11/2017 1:44 PM): i think its preference you should be able to use both
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 1:47 PM): i guess there is some performace factor there @Jason
Andy Irvine (07/11/2017 1:47 PM): isn't caml much older than linq?
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 1:54 PM): Y
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:54 PM): Is the video working?
Robert Robnett (07/11/2017 1:54 PM): mostly...somtimes theres static
Ian Barber (07/11/2017 1:54 PM): hard to distinguish the dialogue from cross talk
Arthur Hayes (07/11/2017 1:54 PM): agreed
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:55 PM): I've muted my mic
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:56 PM): remember I've documented all these points in the summary series from MVA
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:56 PM): This shows how they created the custom list for "movies"
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 1:57 PM): Notice they used a "List Designer" to quickly create the Movie list
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 2:03 PM): Y
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 2:32 PM): If you are new to developer work..
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 2:33 PM): ..run the solution files instead of the starter
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 2:58 PM): NOTE: to copy and paste to the VM use... "Type Clipboard Text"
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 2:58 PM): notice <CTRL> C and <CTRL> V will not work for Hyper-V
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 3:19 PM): Derek need your help can you please check my computer
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:19 PM): sure
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:20 PM): I'm looking now
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:20 PM): what's the issue?
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:20 PM): did you try running the completed solution?
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:20 PM): .. and comparing your code?
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:21 PM): do a "find in code" for Initialize control"
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:21 PM): let me try
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:24 PM): is this Lab A or B?
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (07/11/2017 3:24 PM): a
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:25 PM): @Quynh - was chatting with Rab
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:25 PM): @Rab - which one?
Robert Robnett (07/11/2017 3:52 PM): Google or facebook
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 3:52 PM): Q - what are some internet identity options?
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 3:52 PM): FB and social media login, Oauth
Ronald Boylan (07/11/2017 3:53 PM): owin based
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:04 PM): Derek - i need to see an example of joining two lists
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:04 PM): ok
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:05 PM): ok
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:07 PM): @Rab - I can find some code examples for you
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:07 PM): great
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:08 PM): @Rab - there are ways you can do this "out of the box" without any custom code
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:09 PM): I will let you know when you can look at the blog article - will only take a few mins
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:09 PM): got some lab questions in hand too
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:16 PM): Derek - i know how to do it out of the box. I guess you are reffering to lookup
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:16 PM): list lookup
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:16 PM): yep
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:17 PM): lots's of references to doing it programatically - I'm hust compiling some of the better references
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:17 PM): i need to compare couple of fields in two lists
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:17 PM): programming is the solution for problem
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:19 PM): @Rab - "compare a couple" means it could be more than one? Are they the same data type?
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:19 PM): yes - string
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:20 PM): yes two columns
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:20 PM): infact i need to "JOIN ??" three list based on certain conditions
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:22 PM): @Rab - should be a godd fit for these skills you are learning here. I could help you with the pseudocode. ..
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:23 PM): .. the bigest issue would be to create a scratchpad for the data as it is read from each list - depending on how many lists and how many cont=ditions this could be very cpu intensive
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:23 PM): another option would be to port to SQL and do the join there - is it very private and secure data?
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:24 PM): FOIP? you are in education, I believe?
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:24 PM): thats a restricted access data
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:24 PM): I built an automated workflow system for purchasing dept and other depts
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:25 PM): those data stored in multiple lists
Ronald Boylan (07/11/2017 4:25 PM): How about merging IEnumerable<T> https://www.google.com/url?sa=
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:25 PM): now i need to build a dashboard for the senior executives so that they can see everyhting in one shot
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:26 PM): You can do joins at the reporting layer too
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:26 PM): Ronald has an idea
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:27 PM): Reporting layer? SSRS?
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:28 PM): Whichever tool you use - there are so many. SSRS is my comfort zone - also PowerBI
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:28 PM): Exec dashboards can be fun - I also do them in Dynamics CRM/xRM
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:28 PM): thank you Ronald.. i'll check that out
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:29 PM): i already built bunch of dashboard - using out of the box SP and some JQery
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:30 PM): this one is bit critical
Ahmedur Rab (07/11/2017 4:30 PM): thank you for your help.. i'll explore further
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 4:32 PM): look out for my blog entry - probably tomorrow then
Derek So'Brien (07/11/2017 5:04 PM): SHutting down for today
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Derek So'Brien (7:50 AM): good morning
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Derek So'Brien (8:44 AM): I'm here for Lab support if you are catching up
Ashraf Pandhare (8:58 AM): Good morning
Ahmedur Rab (9:00 AM): good morning
Ahmedur Rab (9:01 AM): Yes
Derek So'Brien (9:03 AM): http://learningtreetraining.
Ahmedur Rab (9:13 AM): thank you for your research on that @Derek
Ahmedur Rab (9:14 AM): Feature - delarative way to
Derek So'Brien (9:14 AM): Q - what is a feature?
Derek So'Brien (9:14 AM): A - any SP element that you can define delcaratively
Derek So'Brien (9:14 AM): declare
Jason Macdonnell (9:32 AM): anyone working on module 4 timerjob, did you have the dll already in E:\Labfiles\Starter\
Derek So'Brien (9:51 AM): ADLDS in your DMZ (perimeter)
Derek So'Brien (9:51 AM): ADAM
Derek So'Brien (9:56 AM): Q - How often do you perform DR rehearsal?
Jason Macdonnell (9:57 AM): When i worked for a big company it was very often, but this small company almost never
Derek So'Brien (10:06 AM): 20533 - Azure for IT Pro
Derek So'Brien (10:06 AM): 20532 > Azure for Dev
Derek So'Brien (10:32 AM): OK - I will walk you thru how to get it
Robert Robnett (10:45 AM): Please paste that link
Ashraf Pandhare (10:45 AM): i tried to download 204898 allfiles.exe it fails.
Jason Macdonnell (10:51 AM): 4
Jason Macdonnell (10:51 AM): should be in starter
Jason Macdonnell (10:51 AM): mod04timerjob.dll
Jason Macdonnell (10:56 AM): task 2
Jason Macdonnell (10:58 AM): you are missing Lab A
Jason Macdonnell (10:58 AM): its Working with farm solutions
Jason Macdonnell (11:00 AM): i was definetly working in book A
Derek So'Brien (11:03 AM): Oh, I see
Derek So'Brien (11:03 AM): Yes, happens alot
Derek So'Brien (11:03 AM): I can remind folks in the future
Derek So'Brien (11:04 AM): Let's spend 1/2 hour of lab time.
Derek So'Brien (11:05 AM): You should at least run the "worked" solutions and then inpect the code examples
Derek So'Brien (11:07 AM): yep - I see
Derek So'Brien (11:07 AM): sorry I did not catch it earlier
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (11:37 AM): sorry i cant hear anything.
Derek So'Brien (11:38 AM): WCF - 20486
Derek So'Brien (12:03 PM): Let's break for lunch
Ahmedur Rab (1:06 PM): i am in
Jason Macdonnell (1:09 PM): play store
Derek So'Brien (1:10 PM): Q - what are some other brands for "App" distribution? Where can you buy an App?
Ronald Boylan (1:10 PM): SalesForce
Robert Robnett (1:10 PM): Amazon, Samsung, Apple, Play Store
Derek So'Brien (1:19 PM): Q - do you run the SC suite or part of it ?
Derek So'Brien (1:19 PM): SCCM = configuration manager
Derek So'Brien (1:19 PM): SCOM - operations > OMS
Derek So'Brien (1:20 PM): DPM - data protection
Derek So'Brien (1:20 PM): SM - service
Derek So'Brien (1:20 PM): SCORCH > automation
sergio (1:20 PM): we use SCCM
Derek So'Brien (1:21 PM): Look for Private Cloud training
Derek So'Brien (1:25 PM): Performance Point
Derek So'Brien (1:29 PM): WWF - windows workflow foundation
Derek So'Brien (1:33 PM): WWF - step bt step
Derek So'Brien (1:33 PM): Safari books online > create trial
Ahmedur Rab (1:54 PM): when to use sync and async loading?
Ahmedur Rab (1:54 PM): object loading
Ahmedur Rab (1:55 PM): prev slides
Ahmedur Rab (1:55 PM): in your previous slide
Ahmedur Rab (1:55 PM): probably two slides back
Derek So'Brien (1:57 PM): You are in chapter 10 at position 5074
Ahmedur Rab (1:58 PM): ok i'll look into it
Robert Robnett (2:02 PM): Would you also have any examples of pagination using REST API and a list?
Derek So'Brien (2:04 PM): origins of Web services - UDDI.org
Derek So'Brien (2:05 PM): Web 2.0 - REST API
Derek So'Brien (2:05 PM): Based on commands that look like URL's
Derek So'Brien (2:08 PM): http://metafore2012.blogspot.
Robert Robnett (2:40 PM): We can't see your screen
Robert Robnett (2:40 PM): yes
Derek So'Brien (3:09 PM): @Rab - this answers your question quite nicely
Derek So'Brien (3:09 PM): https://www.codeproject.com/
Derek So'Brien (3:09 PM): Look for async and sync
Derek So'Brien (3:10 PM): mainly used for javascript queries and CSOM
Robert Robnett (3:34 PM): How do you use the REST api to retrieve a subset of the list?
Derek So'Brien (3:39 PM): You are in chapter 10 at position 8185
Derek So'Brien (3:46 PM): http://metafore2012.blogspot.
Ronald Boylan (3:47 PM): sound and video fine
Robert Robnett (3:47 PM): The audio is fine
Derek So'Brien (3:48 PM): ok good
Derek So'Brien (4:04 PM): 20480
Ahmedur Rab (4:16 PM): Derek - i can find the link for last video.. can you pls help me to find that out
Ahmedur Rab (4:18 PM): * i cant find the link for the last video in your blog
Ahmedur Rab (4:18 PM): REST API - video
Derek So'Brien (4:21 PM): I'm in the Lab chatroom for support
Derek So'Brien (4:24 PM): https://learningtreetraining.
Derek So'Brien (4:25 PM): http://metafore2012.blogspot.
Derek So'Brien (7:50 AM): good morning
AnyWare Support Tony Curtis (8:08 AM): Good morning everyone. Please press the big blue Start button to get setup for the day.
Derek So'Brien (8:37 AM): Thanks Tony
Derek So'Brien (8:44 AM): I'm here for Lab support if you are catching up
Ashraf Pandhare (8:58 AM): Good morning
Ahmedur Rab (9:00 AM): good morning
Ahmedur Rab (9:01 AM): Yes
Derek So'Brien (9:03 AM): http://learningtreetraining.
Ahmedur Rab (9:13 AM): thank you for your research on that @Derek
Ahmedur Rab (9:14 AM): Feature - delarative way to
Derek So'Brien (9:14 AM): Q - what is a feature?
Derek So'Brien (9:14 AM): A - any SP element that you can define delcaratively
Derek So'Brien (9:14 AM): declare
Jason Macdonnell (9:32 AM): anyone working on module 4 timerjob, did you have the dll already in E:\Labfiles\Starter\
Derek So'Brien (9:51 AM): ADLDS in your DMZ (perimeter)
Derek So'Brien (9:51 AM): ADAM
Derek So'Brien (9:56 AM): Q - How often do you perform DR rehearsal?
Jason Macdonnell (9:57 AM): When i worked for a big company it was very often, but this small company almost never
Derek So'Brien (10:06 AM): 20533 - Azure for IT Pro
Derek So'Brien (10:06 AM): 20532 > Azure for Dev
Derek So'Brien (10:32 AM): OK - I will walk you thru how to get it
Robert Robnett (10:45 AM): Please paste that link
Ashraf Pandhare (10:45 AM): i tried to download 204898 allfiles.exe it fails.
Jason Macdonnell (10:51 AM): 4
Jason Macdonnell (10:51 AM): should be in starter
Jason Macdonnell (10:51 AM): mod04timerjob.dll
Jason Macdonnell (10:56 AM): task 2
Jason Macdonnell (10:58 AM): you are missing Lab A
Jason Macdonnell (10:58 AM): its Working with farm solutions
Jason Macdonnell (11:00 AM): i was definetly working in book A
Derek So'Brien (11:03 AM): Oh, I see
Derek So'Brien (11:03 AM): Yes, happens alot
Derek So'Brien (11:03 AM): I can remind folks in the future
Derek So'Brien (11:04 AM): Let's spend 1/2 hour of lab time.
Derek So'Brien (11:05 AM): You should at least run the "worked" solutions and then inpect the code examples
Derek So'Brien (11:07 AM): yep - I see
Derek So'Brien (11:07 AM): sorry I did not catch it earlier
Quynh-Huong Nguyen (11:37 AM): sorry i cant hear anything.
Derek So'Brien (11:38 AM): WCF - 20486
Derek So'Brien (12:03 PM): Let's break for lunch
Ahmedur Rab (1:06 PM): i am in
Jason Macdonnell (1:09 PM): play store
Derek So'Brien (1:10 PM): Q - what are some other brands for "App" distribution? Where can you buy an App?
Ronald Boylan (1:10 PM): SalesForce
Robert Robnett (1:10 PM): Amazon, Samsung, Apple, Play Store
Derek So'Brien (1:19 PM): Q - do you run the SC suite or part of it ?
Derek So'Brien (1:19 PM): SCCM = configuration manager
Derek So'Brien (1:19 PM): SCOM - operations > OMS
Derek So'Brien (1:20 PM): DPM - data protection
Derek So'Brien (1:20 PM): SM - service
Derek So'Brien (1:20 PM): SCORCH > automation
sergio (1:20 PM): we use SCCM
Derek So'Brien (1:21 PM): Look for Private Cloud training
Derek So'Brien (1:25 PM): Performance Point
Derek So'Brien (1:29 PM): WWF - windows workflow foundation
Derek So'Brien (1:33 PM): WWF - step bt step
Derek So'Brien (1:33 PM): Safari books online > create trial
Ahmedur Rab (1:54 PM): when to use sync and async loading?
Ahmedur Rab (1:54 PM): object loading
Ahmedur Rab (1:55 PM): prev slides
Ahmedur Rab (1:55 PM): in your previous slide
Ahmedur Rab (1:55 PM): probably two slides back
Derek So'Brien (1:57 PM): You are in chapter 10 at position 5074
Ahmedur Rab (1:58 PM): ok i'll look into it
Robert Robnett (2:02 PM): Would you also have any examples of pagination using REST API and a list?
Derek So'Brien (2:04 PM): origins of Web services - UDDI.org
Derek So'Brien (2:05 PM): Web 2.0 - REST API
Derek So'Brien (2:05 PM): Based on commands that look like URL's
Derek So'Brien (2:08 PM): http://metafore2012.blogspot.
Robert Robnett (2:40 PM): We can't see your screen
Robert Robnett (2:40 PM): yes
Derek So'Brien (3:09 PM): @Rab - this answers your question quite nicely
Derek So'Brien (3:09 PM): https://www.codeproject.com/
Derek So'Brien (3:09 PM): Look for async and sync
Derek So'Brien (3:10 PM): mainly used for javascript queries and CSOM
Robert Robnett (3:34 PM): How do you use the REST api to retrieve a subset of the list?
Derek So'Brien (3:39 PM): You are in chapter 10 at position 8185
Derek So'Brien (3:46 PM): http://metafore2012.blogspot.
Ronald Boylan (3:47 PM): sound and video fine
Robert Robnett (3:47 PM): The audio is fine
Derek So'Brien (3:48 PM): ok good
Derek So'Brien (4:04 PM): 20480
Ahmedur Rab (4:16 PM): Derek - i can find the link for last video.. can you pls help me to find that out
Ahmedur Rab (4:18 PM): * i cant find the link for the last video in your blog
Ahmedur Rab (4:18 PM): REST API - video
Derek So'Brien (4:21 PM): I'm in the Lab chatroom for support
Derek So'Brien (4:24 PM): https://learningtreetraining.
Derek So'Brien (4:25 PM): http://metafore2012.blogspot.
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